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<v Speaker 0>What are the promises that you and your podcast have made to your

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audience? And most importantly, are you keeping those promises?

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Thank you for joining me for The Audacity to Podcast.

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I'm Daniel J. Lewis.

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Over the course of podcasting, we make many spoken outright

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promises to our audience, as well as some things that our

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audience comes to expect because of certain consistencies that we

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deliver. That's not bad.

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But the most important thing with promises is what? To keep them.

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That's something that I remind my son is keep your promises

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always, no matter what.

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The whole point of a promise is to keep it, not to just say I'm

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going to keep it until I don't want to.

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The point of a promise is to keep it even when you don't want to.

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And we might be making some of those promises with our podcasts.

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Yes.

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There are certain circumstances that need to override that, like

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emergency things, family issues, sometimes holidays things, stuff

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like that.

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Our audiences, I think, generally are understanding toward that

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kind of stuff because we're humans.

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And the kind of relationships that we get to build with our

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audiences are really dynamic and intimate on some level.

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So I think our audience can forgive certain things like that

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because they would do very similar things in a similar situation.

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But there are the other kinds of promises that we might make to

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our audience, And I encourage you to try to remember what those

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promises are, look back at the promises that your podcast is

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making, and seek to keep those promises.

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And to help you in that process, I have 3 questions for you to

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consider.

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You can follow along in the notes for this podcast, a simple tap

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or swipe away.

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Look at the chapters or go to the audacitytopodcast.com/promises.

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Question number 1, what might your audience expect?

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Let's take a trip down memory lane back to episode 1 of The

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Audacity to Podcast, which you can still get at the

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audacitytopodcast.com/one. That is the number 1.

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Or you can scroll all the way back inside your podcast app to

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06/17/2010, and that's when I published episode 1 of The Audacity

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to Podcast.

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And I broke many rules that I now recommend that you not do.

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I did many of those things.

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I made many of those mistakes in my first episode.

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Like, I wasted way too much time in the beginning of the episode

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before I actually got into the content.

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And the other mistake was I explained what the podcast is about

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in the first episode.

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I, by the way, don't recommend that you do that.

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I recommend instead you do a trailer, or if you really want your

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first episode to kinda be an introduction to the podcast as a

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whole, weave that in through the content that you're teaching.

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And in my first episode, I did get 2 unique episode content that

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could be a regular episode on its own, but I also gave some

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introduction before then.

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And part of that introduction was my explaining why I called the

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podcast The Audacity to Podcast, saying that the word audacity

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has a lot of meaning to it. It's not just the software.

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It is the guts, the power, the courage.

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And I said it takes guts and courage and audacity to believe that

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we can take on the big broadcasters, that we can change the

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world, sometimes literally from our closets and our basements,

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that we can have a voice and share that voice with the world

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through our podcast.

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That is, first and foremost, why I called my show The Audacity to

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Podcast. And it has always been that.

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And that's why the tagline has always said, first, giving you the

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guts.

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So I started out my explanation of audacity as a concept and why

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that applies to podcasters.

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And then let's take that trip back so you can hear what I

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actually said after that.

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I know that not many podcasters out there are talking about

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Audacity. Sure.

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There's a episode here or there talking about Audacity, but no 1

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really talks a lot about Audacity.

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Now this show won't focus entirely on Audacity, I'll be talking

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about all sorts of things, not just the software, the hardware,

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techniques, and all sorts of things.

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But when it comes down to editing software, I will be talking

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about Audacity a lot more than most other podcasters are.

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So that explanation came after my saying that the main reason I

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called my show The Audacity to Podcast is because of what the

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word means, audacity, courage, guts, power, all of that kind of

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stuff. And that's why I was so excited about.

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And I did also want to be a podcast that would go in-depth when

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talking about the Audacity software.

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That's what I said, and I didn't promise that I was going to be a

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podcast about Audacity.

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But because of the branding And even Leo Laporte, when he gave me

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my first podcast award, said it would be a podcast about

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Audacity.

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And he thought the podcast was about Audacity, which it has never

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been a podcast about the software Audacity.

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But you heard what I said there in that first episode.

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And I found it funny that back then when I thought there were so

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many other podcasts about podcasting because of the 2 I found and

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I was listening to at that time, I was shocked when I heard 1 of

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them mention me.

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And that was Dave Jackson, now a very, very good friend.

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Back in episode 223 of School of Podcasting, near the end, he

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talked about some of the other podcasts about podcasting, and he

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welcomed me to the scene, and he said this.

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<v Speaker 1>His first episode said it was going to be in-depth about

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Audacity.

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I'm up to episode 3, and he hasn't really talked about audacity

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yet.

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<v Speaker 0>What we have is a failure to communicate.

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You heard what I actually said in episode 1, and then you heard

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what Dave expected from The Audacity to Podcast.

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And that's not Dave's fault, by the way.

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That's my fault because I failed to communicate better.

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Nonetheless, and bringing this back to this point, what might

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your audience expect?

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I did set certain expectations because of the name of the podcast

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and the fact that I did acknowledge that I would be talking about

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Audacity in that first episode, but I didn't actually talk about

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audacity or focus an episode entirely on something in audacity

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until episode 5 of The Audacity to Podcast.

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And that was my fault for not communicating better or not meeting

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that expectation right up front.

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You know what I could have done in that first episode is hit the

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ground running, as they say, and given something like, here's the

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number 1 tip to make your podcast sound great in Audacity.

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That would have been a great first episode because there it is

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talking about Audacity from the start.

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So when people come to the podcast thinking this is a podcast

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about Audacity, they listen to episode 1 expecting a podcast to

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talk about audacity. They hear me talk about audacity.

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They get that promise fulfilled, and then they'd be more likely

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to listen to the other content.

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It's just like years ago when I acquired a domain for a Christian

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comedy podcast and forwarded their RSS feed to my then Clean

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Comedy Podcast, I welcomed that audience, and I provided more

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content that would be more targeted to them so they would know,

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yes, we are welcome here.

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This is a completely different podcast, but appealing to some of

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the same interests and humor. And so I welcome them that way.

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I learned my lesson later on.

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But there in episode 1 of the Audacity podcast, I didn't set the

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right expectations for the podcast.

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So you need to look at how is your podcast setting the

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expectations for your audience.

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Not the stuff that you explicitly say yet.

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We'll talk about that in a moment.

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But the stuff that your audience will come to expect because of

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the nature of your podcast or the branding of your podcast or

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anything else about your podcast.

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For example, going back to another podcast I hosted, my podcast

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about the TV show once upon a time. It's over at oncepodcast.com.

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With that podcast, something I tried to remind my cohost

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frequently of, especially when we would watch an episode of that

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TV show that just felt like a time waster episode or filler

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episode that didn't really move the plot along.

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It did some weird things with the story, maybe rehash things that

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we already saw, and it was just kind of like the monster of the

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week sort of thing without really progressing the serialized

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storytelling that we were used to and eager to learn more about.

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What I reminded my cohost is as podcasters talking about this TV

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show, we are curators of fandom.

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And so we need to remember, we are talking to people who love the

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show.

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They are coming to our podcast because they love this TV show.

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And so when they come to the podcast, they are expecting to have

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that love fulfilled in some way or celebrated or reinforced and

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supported and fed. They want their fandom curated for them.

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So even when we are having a bad day or if we have a bad episode,

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we need to remember that we are curators of fandom.

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Our audience expects us to bring positive light to them through

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the podcast even if it's a bad episode. Yes.

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We can acknowledge this wasn't a great episode of the TV show,

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but let's make a great episode of the podcast for the audience

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that wants it. And so that's what we did.

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We would praise the show.

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We would, yes, criticize the show when it needed it, but we

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didn't beat down on the show.

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Some of the other podcasters about the TV show did that, and I've

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heard other podcasts about TV shows that also beat down on the

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show that they were watching.

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And it would often leave me as an audience member asking the

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question, why are you even doing this podcast?

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If you hate this TV show so much or you're coming across like you

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hate it episode after episode after episode, it's not meeting

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your expectations. Why even bother doing this podcast?

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Unless you want to ridicule the show, then maybe change your

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branding to make that point that you're making fun of the show or

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criticizing it because of how much you hate it.

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It's your hate watch.

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So what might your audience expect from your podcast?

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Not that you have explicitly promised, but due to the nature of

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your podcast, the branding, the ideas that your podcast talks

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about, and the content that you present, what might your audience

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expect?

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This doesn't mean you need to meet every single expectation of

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your audience and be at the whim of their every demand, but you

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should take it into consideration what they expect so that you

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can try to give them the content you are excited about that also

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helps fulfill their expectations because that is somewhat of a

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promise relationship with your audience.

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Number 2, what does your description promise?

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Look at your description in your favorite podcast app and see

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what is your podcast actually saying that you will deliver, and

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are you delivering that?

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Think back to my example of episode 1 of The Audacity to Podcast.

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If my podcast description said, this is the only podcast that

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talks exclusively about Audacity for podcasting, which my podcast

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description did not say it, but if it did, then that would

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definitely make a promise to my audience that this is what my

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podcast is about. This is what I'm going to talk about.

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You can expect that episode after episode after episode, with

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very few exceptions, will be about this thing.

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That is the promise you make to your audience through the way

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that you describe your podcast, as well as your branding, the

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episode titles too, and the episode descriptions, you need to

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make sure that you deliver on that promise that you are making

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through your descriptions.

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I see this way too frequently with YouTube videos, especially

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when you get into the AI space because there are a lot of AI

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focused YouTube channels that are basically republishing or

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revoicing AI slop.

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Either the video is completely AI voiced and AI, even an AI

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avatar on there, or they are reading an AI generated script that

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is still basically AI slop.

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And the titles and the images of these things, the word, by the

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way, that now bothers me so much every time I see it is insane.

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Like, there's 1 particular channel.

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I ended up unsubscribing from the channel because it bugged me so

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much how much AI slop that they put out. Yes.

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They would occasionally have a genuine video of the person

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actually there looking at the camera, their actual face, not

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their digital avatar.

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It seemed like 4 out of 5 of their videos, and they would publish

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a lot of videos, about 4 out of 5 would have the word insane in

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the title or the screenshot.

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It would be like, such and such update is insane.

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Opus 4.7 is insane.

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And other things too, like weird things that just to me screams

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of you're using AI to write all of this for you, and you're

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letting it write these titles for you.

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And these titles are falling into a pattern.

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That's something that AI can do, by the way, is that if you keep

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something going in the same conversation, AI can start to fall

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into a pattern because AI is really good at recognizing patterns.

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And when it looks back at what it's already done, if you haven't

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corrected what it's already done, it will often end up repeating

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itself and following that same pattern.

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So I think that's why there's a lot of insane stuff out there in

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the world of people talking about AI.

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But when those titles for your episodes say something like how to

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do this thing, then does your episode actually deliver on that

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promise of how to do that thing?

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Or if your episode description says something like, follow these

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steps to 10 x your growth or 10 x your success and whatever focus

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area that is that your podcast is about, does the information you

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provide actually do that? And can you quantify that?

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Can you show that, yes, this has 10 x the results for someone

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else, and therefore, you could follow these to probably 10 x for

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yourself too?

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So what are those promises that your podcast is making through

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the podcast description as well as your episode descriptions and

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your episode titles and how you promote the podcast.

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Look at those things.

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And number 3, what have you actually said in your podcast that is

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basically a promise?

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Have you said things like, get a new episode of the podcast every

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week or joining me as always, my cohost.

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Well, is your cohost always there?

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That is a form of a promise to say things like always and every

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week, and it will always be out there.

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Look for those times where you're using those words that

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communicate a promise of some sort, and try to refine your

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language there.

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If you said, we'll have a new podcast for you every Tuesday

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morning, then make sure you keep that promise. Yes.

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Your audience will be understanding if certain things come up

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and, like, there's a family emergency, it's a holiday time, that

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stuff aside.

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And I really do think audiences will understand that, especially

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if they've been listening to you for a while because we tend to

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build relationships with our audiences since podcasting is a bit

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more of an intimate medium versus many other forms of Internet

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content.

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So your audience will understand when something comes up like

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that.

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But if you're just being lazy, you just didn't get around to it,

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you just didn't feel it in the moment, and you skip an episode,

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then you've broken your promise.

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And that's convicting to me because I know I've broken my promise

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too.

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There have been things I've said that I would do with the I'd ask

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you to podcast that I didn't do.

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There are times that I said I would be there.

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Look at how many times. What would you call it?

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Like, not a pod fade, but a a pod false start or something like

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that.

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But how many times after I went through my painful and unwanted

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divorce, but how many times I said, The Audacity to Podcast will

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be back or it is back now?

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I came out with several episodes and then disappeared for months.

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And, yes, there was major stuff happening each time and some

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personal things that I don't need to get into right here.

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But it was basically where I thought certain things were stable

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enough that I could get back to podcasting again, and then

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something blindsided me.

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And that's the way it was for several years.

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And then there was all kinds of guilt.

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And beyond that, you heard from my first episode how I described

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what some of the episodes would be about, and that was making a

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promise, which as you could see from how Dave Jackson took that,

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I didn't keep that promise right from the beginning.

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Even though I didn't explicitly say every episode will be about

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audacity, still he was expecting it.

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And I said I would focus on audacity multiple times, and I didn't

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do that for several episodes.

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So think about those things that you have said in your podcast.

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You've promised your audience.

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It could be topics that you're going to cover in an upcoming

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episode.

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It could be an event you're going to do, something you're going

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to promote, a way that you're going to help someone, or something

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that you're willing to do for certain people.

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What are those promises that you have explicitly said?

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I will do this. That is a promise.

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You don't have to say, I promise to do this and pinky swear and

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all that kind of stuff, spitting your hands and shaking hands

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with each other, anything like that.

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You don't have to do that to be making a promise.

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Just think about every time you say, I will.

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That is a form of a promise.

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So what have you said in your podcast as a promise?

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Look back at these things.

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Look at what your audience might be expecting from your podcast

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and the kind of podcast that you have, the topic that you talk

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about.

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Look at the descriptions around your podcast, your podcast

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description, your episode descriptions, your episode titles.

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Look at what you are saying in your podcast.

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Look at all of these types of promises that you're making.

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And, yeah, it could be convicting to realize some of them, you

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might not have kept. And, yeah, that is a failure.

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But you can make things right, or you can set new expectations

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and new promises and correct things from now on.

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And that's up to you how you want to handle that.

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But I hope that these questions have inspired you to look at some

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of these things, consider those promises so that you can not just

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remember them, but keep them.

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Because that is the whole point of a promise is to keep the

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promise that you make.

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1 of the promises I make is to be constantly improving and

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building onto Podgagement and Pod chapters, and I am fulfilling

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that promise with a big feature that I had said would be coming,

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and that is in Podgagement, the SEO tracking feature.

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This took a while to make because I hit several roadblocks and

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obstacles along the way, so it got a bit more complicated than I

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expected.

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But I finally broke through those things, and the SEO feature is

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actually ready.

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But don't tell anyone yet because it's not completely officially

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launched yet.

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Nonetheless, if you are a Podgagement user, you can go over and

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sign up to try that out.

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And in fact, if you're on my email list, then you will get a

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special little promotion because for a limited time, and this

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might already be passed by the time you're hearing this, but for

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a limited time, I want to make the SEO tracking feature available

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to all Podgagement users, even though it will be a Constellation

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exclusive feature.

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So that's for the higher tier membership over there at

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podgagement.com. But I want more people to just try it.

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I want more feedback on how does this look?

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What are you expecting from this feature?

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How are things operating?

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Because I can only do so much testing on my own podcast.

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I want others to test with their podcast, their ideas of what

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they want to track for their search ranking.

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But the way that the feature works is really cool, and I think it

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might even be working better than what anyone else does and more

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accurate than anyone else does.

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In fact, 1 of the things that Podgagement can now track with the

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SEO tracking feature is how your episodes are performing for

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certain search terms, not just your overall podcast, but your

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individual episodes.

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Which of them are showing up in the search results in Apple for

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those search terms that you want to enter?

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So that's over at podgagement.com.

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I would love for you to try it out to track your ratings, your

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reviews, your charts, your helping you get feedback, written

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feedback, or voice mail feedback from your audience.

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You can track your ranking across nearly 34,000 charts.

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Now you can track how you're ranking in search results inside

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Apple Podcasts and other podcast apps to be supported soon.

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And you can generate images from your ratings and reviews with

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just a few clicks.

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You can embed those images and reviews on your site.

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And you can do so much more to engage with your audience as well

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as network with other podcasters who have crossover audience with

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you.

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Podgagement is built around the idea of helping you to

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supercharge your engagement with your audience.

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That's why it's called Podgagement.

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Please check it out over at podgagement.com.

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And now that I've given you some of the guts and taught you some

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of the tools, it's time for you to go start and grow your own

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podcast for passion and profit. I'm Daniel J.

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Lewis from theaudacitytopodcast.com. Thanks for listening.
